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Weekend away: Vibram Open

September 6, 2011

Nate Doss sinks a putt from down low.

There’s something to be said about watching professionals perform their craft.

It doesn’t matter what it is. It can be tiddlywinks. Or basket weaving. Baseball. Football. Photography. Anything.

If one is a professional at something, it shows they are above a normal Joe at that specific thing.

Take, for example, baseball. I’m a Phillies fan. Therefore, I can get as frustrated as other fans when I see Ryan Howard strike out by chasing a ball in the dirt time after time.

But when he connects, there might not be anything prettier in the game.

And, as much as I am not a fan of the NBA and never was a true fan of Michael Jordan, watching him play back in the day was a bit of poetry.

The same can be said of disc golf.

Val Jenkins is one of the top women's pro disc golf players.

Though not a fully mainstreamed sport, disc golf is really picking up steam. There are things that I believe would need to be fixed for it to become a true mainstream sport, but that’s for another day. For now, let’s look at what it is.

First, it’s not Frisbee. Or Frisbee golf. Or frolf. It’s disc golf. And some of these professionals make $20,000 -$30,000 or more in a year playing it. Seriously. For his win this past weekend at the Vibram Open, Nate Doss won $3,000. Yes, $3,000 for a weekend of disc golf. Now, your normal Joe can’t pull that off. I realize that. But like any other professional sport, it has to start somewhere.

I spoke with Chris Sprague following the event. Sprague is a professional and finished in a tie for 21st at the Vibram (and still took home $575!) Anyway, he mentioned some things that he thinks need to improve to push the spot along, but for now, he likens it to the PGA in the 1950s. Back when players crashed at people’s homes and the tour was in its infant stages. It’s grassroots.

That’s disc golf right now.

Nikko Locastro is regarded by many as one of the best in the world and the future of the sport.

The PDGA (Professional Disc Golf Association) is the “head” organization for the sport and holds the major tournaments as well as the National Tour. The Vibram Open this past weekend at Maple Hill Disc Golf Course in Massachusetts was the final event on the tour and decided its champions.

There were a couple of thousand people who came out over the course of the weekend to watch this event. The final day featured anywhere from 100-200 people following the final card, depending on the spot on the course where the foursome was at that point. Another 100 or 200 were waiting foursomes as they came up the 18th fairway. It was quite a scene.

I went with Darren this weekend to the Vibram Open to volunteer. I helped with the media things, writing a few press releases and doing something for the PDGA’s magazine following the tournament. But what this gave me the chance to do was to see, interact and deal with several of the top disc golfing stars.

What I found is that many of them are extremely down to Earth.

Several of them, after I interviewed them, asked where things were going to be published. It’s not such a huge sport where these players don’t worry about what’s being written. It’s still at the point where I think many like to see their names in publications. Or photos. It’s not like an MLB or NFL player who probably couldn’t keep up with how much is written about them.

The weekend didn’t go without speed bumps, however. And that happens. In a sport like this, people aren’t really “trained” to speak with the media. Some might not want to. Some might be too emotional to deal with it. It happens. That will change as the sport grows, hopefully.

That being said, most of the top pros are approachable and speak well. They signed autographs without issue. They chatted with fans, fellow lower-level pros and anyone else.

Reigning World Champion Paige Pierce is one of the brightest young stars in the women's field.

Then they played.

Oh did they play.

To watch someone throw a disc some 500 feet or more is a amazing. Then to watch them throw one 200 feet through a six-foot-wide opening in the woods is even more incredible.

It really made me want to get better. Not that I’ll be at this level, but it was still something that made me say that I wanted to improve.

They putted from 30 feet like it was nothing. I saw people nail 75-80-foot putts like it was normal.

The men. The women. They all were incredible.

Still, the sport needs to grow. There are some things that can be fixed. Namely, the ability to watch or get coverage. The reality is that many disc golf courses are built in the woods. It’s the nature of the game. But for people to watch, they need to keep behind the players. TV and media people are often ahead, but that’s a small crop.

The crowd stands behind Nate Doss and Nikko Locastro.

When one goes to a PGA event, they can line the fairway and circle a green. With disc golf, because the throws are often eye level, one needs to try and stay out of the vision plane of the person throwing.

Darren and I were speaking to Avery Jenkins, a former World Champion, following the tournament. He made a few good points, such as Tiger Woods doesn’t have to worry about all the trees when he drives the ball. He noted that just because a disc golf course hole might be open doesn’t always make it easy.

It’s food for thought, that’s for sure.

The sport needs to grow and there will eventually have to find a way to make it a little more exciting for fans to come watch. If you are close, it’s wild. But when you are in the back of the crowd and can’t see a lot, it’s not as much fun. What these guys can do with discs is pretty wild — from making them go left or right, straight and long, rolling on the ground and other things, it’s cool stuff.

They get emotional, just like anyone else, when things go wrong.

They smile, wave or pump a fist when they make a good shot and a crowd cheers them on.

This sport has a chance to make it big. It just needs to grow into it.

Players, for the most part, seemed to embrace the fans, media and anyone else. Most seem to realize that to get to the next level (which, of course, would mean bigger purses, bigger sponsorships and more), they need to take any coverage they can get. It’s true. This sport has a chance. It just needs to really push forward.

Tournament director Steve Dodge and runner-up Sarah Stanhope share a laugh during the awards ceremony.

Someone like Steve Dodge — the tournament director at the Vibram Open and a very big part of the disc golf scene — really gets it. He has some excellent visions and I hope he gets the chance to see them to fruition. It’s people like this that disc golf needs.

But beyond this, the grassroots campaign has to continue.

Pros need to embrace the lower-level amateurs. Work with them. Realize these are the fans. When Nate Doss or Avery Jenkins is out having a hot dog or a chat with the normal Joes that came to watch them, that goes a long way. Taking photos with fans or shaking hands and slapping five during the tournament doesn’t hurt. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think they should concentrate more on that than their play during a tournament, but a quick slap of a couple fans’ hands can’t hurt if the pro just made a sick putt.

The key word I would give the pros is to embrace it. And let the fans do the rest.

There are some easily marketable men and women in this sport. From Nate Doss, Nikko Locastro, Dave Feldberg and Avery Jenkins to Paige Pierce, Val Jenkins and Sarah Hokom or Sarah Stanhope. There are great young players like Ricky Wysocki and Paul Ulibarri. The names are there. The ability is there. Disc golf just has to push forward. It has to market itself first. And, to quote the movie Field of Dreams, “if you built it, they will come.”

It won’t be an easy trip, though.

When I tell friends about disc golf, I still get the people wondering why I want to play a sport that seems based in “hippies, smoking illegal things or getting drunk and throwing a frisbee.” Though I realize these things happen — and I’ve seen it — I play the sport for the fun. I’m learning. And I see many people who don’t fit this stereotype. The game needs to shake that image first, then keep pushing.

And these pros I saw at the Vibram Open are a good bunch to start that with.

Play the game and play it right. Don’t mess with the public persona. Don’t let the public keep that image of the sport. It’s there for the taking. It won’t happen overnight, but it’s possible. And places like the Vibram Open are great tools to use to show that disc golf can be a big-time sport.

Now, back to me. I learned a lot this weekend. And for that, I’ll be grateful. Some of the things I’ve learned:

  • I need to, and want to, get better
  • Putting is huge in this game (I knew this already, it was solidly re-enforced)
  • Big-time pros can make the same mistakes I make
  • The pro women are as much fun to watch as the men
  • Avery Jenkins can throw the disc… a long way.

The experience started out rough when I first got there, I won’t lie. But as the weekend went on, I had the chance to meet people, talk with more and learn a lot. I hope I have the chance again at some point.

The tournament was also carried on Disc Golf Planet. I see they have been replaying it, so it might be worth a check if you are interested.

I took a lot of photos this weekend, too. If interested, you can check them out in their Flickr set.

Note: I received some cool things this weekend from a vendor at the tournament and I will be holding a couple of contests soon for those items!

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Filed Under: Disc golf, My world, Photography, Sports Tagged With: avery jenkins, chris sprague, disc golf, nate doss, nikko locastro, paige pierce, paul ulibarri, pdga, professional disc golf association, ricky wysocki, sarah hokom, sarah stanhope, steve dodge, val jenkins, vibram, vibram open, vibram open disc golf tournament

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Notes from my noodle: August 22 edition

August 22, 2011

I like disc golf.

Seriously, it’s a good time and good exercise. Case in point? By my pedometer’s count, I walked 5.1 miles playing 36 holes in a tournament Sunday afternoon. Anyone who thinks that’s not exercise needs to really define the word. It’s said that 30 minutes of walking per day helps your health. I did that and then some.

But this isn’t about the argument of whether or not disc golf constitutes exercise. This is about how a fun game can turn sour in a hurry.

See, when you are in tournaments, you don’t have control over a lot of things — weather, playing partners etc. You have to go with the flow. Still, the hope is to keep the game fun and entertaining. Without those last two pieces, a tournament — and the game — become dragging and not something I want to do.

So this tournament I played in Sunday…

It’s on a course I really like. I’ve shot well here and though I knew I stood no chance of winning my division, I set a goal of not finishing dead last in the division and the tournament. Anything else would be gravy.

The first round I got paired with three people in a different division. That’s fine, but it was tough because they were playing from the blue (longer) tees and I was playing from the white (shorter) tees. That basically meant that no matter how well I shot, I wasn’t going to get to be first on the tee if I got the lowest score because I was on a different tee.

I didn’t have an issue playing with the guys I was paired with. They were all cool to deal with and good players. But, for someone like me, that’s a little intimidating. They know a lot more. They do a lot more. The score a lot better. It’s tough when paired with people like this because newer players (such as myself) can watch and get lost in it all.

And it can’t be any better for those guys as they shoot 15-20 strokes better than me.

The hardest part was when we walked up to the white tees and sometimes they’d continue on before I’d say something. I don’t blame them either — they are playing from those tees, watching their shots, knowing what they have to do etc.

But for me, it made it harder because I didn’t want to slow them down or “hurt” their game. So I rushed at times, got stupid at others. All because I was worried about other things. The reality was that I wasn’t going to place in my division. Those guys could win theirs. It stunk, to be honest. I felt bad and I played worse. (To be fair, the thunderstorm that rolled through and soaked us didn’t help my misery, either).

I shot an 83 on a course that I hadn’t been out of the 70s on in quite a while.

The second round was a different story. I played with people from my division. People playing from the white tees. We played as quick as we could, had fun and all scored near the same. It was enjoyable. We joked, we chatted and didn’t worry. I wasn’t worried about screwing somebody’s game up. I was loose and enjoyed the round.

End result? A 72.

I truly understand that tournaments are hard to organize, run and do. I’ve done them in many sports. I’ve run leagues and tournaments and all sorts of things. So I can empathize. People who didn’t pre-register can also put a wrench in the spokes. And many tournaments I’ve played in do the same thing in the opening round — mix up players in different divisions. But it seems unfair to put a recreational/novice player with those who are really good. At least put two people playing from the whites in with a couple from the blues. That would make it a little less nerve-racking — for both sets of people.

I don’t know if my play had any effect on the three better players. But I know it did on me because of several factors. It wasn’t the company — I enjoyed the three others. In fact, I think a casual round with the three of them would be fun and educational, in regard to disc golfing. But in a tournament? It was tough.

In the end, it was OK. My 11-stroke differential between rounds earned me a $25 gift card to a sports store for best improvement. So add that to the disc I got for playing and two rounds of competition for my $20 fee, and I can’t complain. But, it’s food for thought.

For those of you who might read the blog and are disc golfers — give me your thoughts and experiences in the comments below. I’d love to hear what you think about these things.

***

As you may know, I’m in the midst of a small personal project on the blog with my research of obscure baseball players.

I’ve picked out a half-dozen or so that I am going to start digging into and getting information on. I’m going to head up to Cooperstown and the National Baseball Hall of Fame to visit its library and find what I can on these players.

I’m hoping I can connect some dots as for some of these players, all I have is what I can find on baseball-reference.com. Hopefully, there will be a few things I can add to the numbers from this trip to the Hall.

***

It’s time for me to come up with a better way of storing memory cards after switching them out of my camera.

I went to the county fair Saturday and took a small memory card full of photos, many of which were really cute photos of a friend’s daughter. When I got home and was ready to move them from the card to my external hard drive, I couldn’t find the card.

Panic set in.

I looked through all of my pockets and everything else. The camera bag, my memory card pouch — everything. And nothing found.

I had put the card in my pocket when switching out and I had no idea what happened. My only thought was that I dropped it at the fair (in one of two places) or in the street at my friend’s house when getting in my car.

He went out and checked at his house. Nothing.

I went searching again and found a bag I had in my pocket. The card somehow ended up in there. My panic ended. That made me realize that I need to come up with a memory card holder to be able to switch out when needed. I don’t ever want to go through that again!

Any of you photographers have any suggestions for a good pocket-sized memory card holder?

***

Speaking of disc golf, as I did earlier in this post, I received an interesting package in the mail.

It was my renewal for my PDGA (Professional Disc Golf Association) membership. What’s odd about that is that I didn’t renew because my membership doesn’t end until Dec. 31, 2011. And if I was going to renew, I would do it after Oct. 1, when it would give credit for next year. Even with that, it wouldn’t make sense. I hadn’t planned on renewing until the end of the year, when it needed to be done.

Last year, when I signed up, I did it after Oct. 1, so it was for the end of 2010 and all of 2011. When I did that, I got all of the perks and membership stuff. It also included the 2010 member card, which showed my membership expiring on Dec. 31, 2011.

Then the package came today.

I didn’t know what had happened. So, I called them.

Turns out that when I signed up in October, I got all of the 2010 items and then would eventually get the 2011 items. Apparently today is that eventually. At least it all makes sense now!

***

I have some things in the works for future blog posts. I have e-mailed Bill Walker — Skywalker in hiking circles — and will be talking to him soon for a post or two on the blog about his adventures in thru-hiking. I have already previewed one of his books on the site and will be reading his second one, soon.

That also gave me an idea.

I have followed several people through their trail journals this year in regard to hiking the Appalachian Trail. Some finished, some didn’t. I am going to reach out to several of them in the hopes of interviewing them for a post on the blog. I’d like to get both sides, too, so it shows why some people need to leave the trail, how hard it is to finish it or not etc.

I’m going to try and correlate them so I can do all of them over a two-week period (including the Walker stories), maybe going every other day or so — that way not going too overboard with the hiking stories! But I think in the end, it will show a compelling picture of what people have to go through on the hikes. It’s my hopes that I’ll be able to get a few photos from each, too, to be able to help all of you paint a picture of what they go through when they do hikes like this.

Feel free to leave a comment, or e-mail P.J. at hoohaablog [at] gmail.com.

Filed Under: Baseball, Cameras, Disc golf, Hiking, My world, Notes from my noodle, Photography Tagged With: appalachian trail, baseball research, bill walker, camera memory cards, disc golf, disc golf tournament, discs, exercise, frisbee golf, frolf, hiking, losing memory cards, memory cards, obscure baseball players, pdge, photos, pictures, professional disc golf association, research, research on baseball, skywalker, thru-hiking, tournament

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