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Back in baseball time

June 9, 2016

Several months ago, I had started to slowly think about what it would be like to pull a Back to the Future. Basically hop into the Delorean and go off into some place in the past.

With this thought in mind, I was thinking more about baseball.

What teams would I want to see most? What stadiums would I want to visit? What players would I want to see?

Then I let it drift off some.

Recently, I got to thinking about this again and want to revisit it. But, I’m going to take it a little more in-depth, instead of just listing a few things. This is going to take some research on my side of things, but I’m looking forward to that aspect of things.

Originally, my plan was to talk about 10 teams I’d like to see, 10 stadiums I would have liked to have watched a game at, and 10 players I’d like to have watched. The plan was a single blog post for each one – so 30 posts in all.

Then I realized that would become a tad redundant when all said and done.

So, how to be able to cover what I want to do, yet still keep it short enough so it doesn’t become drawn out? I figured I’d do a happy medium in that I’ll split each category into two posts (so six total) doing 10-6, then 5-1 of each category.

The basic reason behind this isn’t just to announce it, but to also have something I can look back on and know what my thought process was!

So, I will be breaking it down like so:

  • 10 Players I’d like to have watches – two posts
  • 10 Teams I’d liked to have seen – two posts
  • 10 Stadiums I’d liked to have seen a game in – two posts

Now, there might be some overlap with these lists. For example, Player A might be on Team C or something like that. But with some of the greatest players in history playing for some of the greatest teams, it’s tough not to have that overlap.

Stadiums will likely be all over the place.

I am not sure how long this will take me, but my plan is to have all of them done before I start posting anything and then maybe doing it weekly for six weeks. If I get some time to do some research, it will be faster. If not, it might take me a few months.

We’ll see how it goes.

But until then, feel free to drop a comment or two about some of your favorite historical teams/stadiums/players. My lists are not concrete by any means, so I’m always willing to look at others from baseball history!

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What has happened to baseball?

April 6, 2016

It was only a matter of time.

The blue-ribbon society has taken baseball, too.

As many of you know, I love baseball. I truly do. It’s a big part of my summers. But I’m a fan of the game. Of the history. How it’s played.

I’m not a fan of making it … not baseball.

I can’t stand the DH (pitchers should hit).

The only time there should be inter-league play is the World Series.

If a catcher is in the way, he should know he might get plowed over.

A takeout slide is a wonderful thing.

Brushback pitches, or a fastball in the back is an equalizer and a way for players to police themselves.

Instant replay sucks.

That’s just the start. I could go on for quite a while. I’m old-school. When I watch a game live, I keep a scorebook. I watch the game. I’m not worried about all the games and things. I want to watch baseball. I like picking up nuances of players in certain situations.

It’s how it should be.

Last year, in the National League playoffs, Chase Utley (now a Dodger)took out Ruben Tejada with a slide that was offline (but watch it, his hand is still in range of the base…). The play ended with Tejada  having a broken leg. Bad luck for sure and it magnified a slide that has been done for decades.

Utley, of course, was with the Phillies for 12 seasons – so Mets fans hate him. The ire of the play came from all over. In fact, MLB in the offseason made a rule adjustment about slides.

That comes on the heels of the change a few years ago banning collisions with catchers (when Buster Posey got rocked – the start of that rule).

So on opening day this year, Utley had an interesting slide coming into home with the Padres. Apparently, the way the rule is written it was illegal. But there are some fans and columnists and writers basically calling for his head over this.

Seriously.

The slide wasn’t even that bad.

I’m glad I have true fans I can talk to about things like this and we all agree that all these changes are ruining the game. One of those fans is a Met fan – who even said last year was just bad luck.

Alas, with the onset of bloggers and people like that who feel they know it all, Utley is the top on the public enemy list.

Full disclaimer – I am a massive Utley fan. I always have been and always will be. He plays hard and plays to win. That’s how it should be. This isn’t tee-ball. It’s baseball. And it’s adults making millions of dollars to play the game. Risk is part of it.

When I covered minor league baseball, one of the coaches I dealt with was Bill Monbouquette. He was a colorful character who never held back opinions on the game. In 1962, Monbo pitched a no-hitter for the Red Sox against the White Sox.  I remember having interesting conversations with him about the game and how it’s gotten softer (pitch counts, not playing through any injuries etc.) and how players get hurt more now than when he played. It’s an interesting thought, if you think about it.

When covering the Hall of Fame one year, I remember Bob Feller – one of the greatest pitchers of all time – bash pitch counts because it made people think more about how many times they threw the ball rather than pitch.

The modern fan isn’t like an old fan, I don’t believe. There are so many things to take the attention away from the game. Writers don’t always have the background of the game and with the lack of funding, some “beat” writers don’t even travel with the team anymore. Bloggers add to things with opinions etc.

The internet has made it easier for people to be experts. Fans and “columnists” (I use that term lightly, as many “professional” sites hire out people cheaply to fill their sites – and the quality is often not where it should be). Comment sections are full of people spewing things they’ve “heard” or assumed, not having a clue about what they are saying.

For example, when this Utley thing happened, somebody wrote about it and one comment talked about how Utley was a “rich boy playing baseball for the Dodgers.”

I didn’t realize only snotty rich boys played for the Dodgers? Must be they never saw the clip of Utley when the Phillies won the World Series in 2008 – the “World F’N Champions” clip. Blue collar.

Back to the situation at hand, though.

It’s truly sad to see the game being made softer. Some fans seem in support of it, others don’t. I sometimes wonder, when fans cheer for changes that alter the game from what it is and its history, if they ever actually played the game. I don’t mean tee-ball or local little league where their parents coached and they all got blue ribbons. I mean actually play.

On one thread of comments, I saw people bashing Utley saying he’ll get his! Somebody will throw at him etc. (Ironic that people like the takeout slide rule … yet apparently also like somebody being thrown at?) These people make it sound like that’s something new.

Do some research.

Utley has been hit 180 times in his career. He doesn’t shy away from it. He takes it and runs down to first. Why? Because he’s a player. Oh, by the way. Do you know how Utley got on base to start that whole sequence where he had the slide at home?

Hit by a pitch. Do the research – the more you know!

The game is truly beautiful.

Take-out slides are brilliant. Sandlot baseball when you threw at your buddy because he jacked a home run off you last at-bat is part of the game.

Salaries keep going up. Prices, too. And that means rules change. It’s not the game it was 20 years ago. I’m glad I grew up in a time to watch Pete Rose (my all-time favorite) and players like that. Utley was a throwback. It’s a shame that a mass of today’s fans (not all) don’t understand the history of the game and what “dirty” really is.

Allow me to leave you with the clip of Utley’s slide. You can form your own opinion.

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Going back in baseball time

October 26, 2015

The World Series is upon us!

This is a time of the year when I really think about baseball and the history of the game. Recently, I came across a video of clips from the dead-ball era of the game.

These are really cool.

It made me wonder, however, about where baseball fans might go if they had the opportunity to go back in time and see one year or team or era of the game.

Do you know when you might go back?

Would you go back to the dead-ball era?

Maybe work your way into the age of Murderer’s Row? The Cubs actually winning a World Series?

The 50s? 60s?
How about the 1800s?

I’d have a hard time deciding when to go back in time. As a baseball history nut, there are so many things I’d like to see.

But can any of you decide?

The reason for this post, though, is because the World Series is about to start. And I recently came across this YouTube video of rare footage from the dead-ball era. Check it out. It’s about 10 minutes long, but well worth watching.

After watching … let me know, what would you want to go back in time and watch?

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Saying goodbye to the greatest closer of all-time

September 27, 2013

I only went to Yankee Stadium once and my chance to see Mariano Rivera was blown by a meaningless home run.

Let me start this by saying I’m not anywhere close to being a Yankees fan.

I never have been. I never will be.

Most Yankees, I can honestly say, I don’t like. I’m not a fan of Derek Jeter. Definitely not A-Rod. There are many who have come through (Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte etc.) who I didn’t like on the field, but away from the game I couldn’t care less about. It’s one of those things.

Then there’s Mo.

Without doubt, Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of all-time. As a fan of baseball — and its history — it’s tough not to be a fan of Rivera, unless of course he’s entering the game against your team.

But it’s hard not to appreciate what he’s done and what he’s meant to the game.

His dominance is bar none. By all reports, he’s a class act in the clubhouse and off the field. Heck, look at how he handled his retirement year. He talked with people at each city he visited this year. Heck. every team did something special for him, too.

If that doesn’t tell you something about how classy he is, I’m not sure what would.

The stats will speak as they are. The Yankees have one more series — at Houston — to end the year.

Watching the final home game of Rivera’s career on Yes Network was quite wild. His final entrance into the game was incredible, especially with the Yankees having a recording of him being announced by Bob Sheppard.

Have a peek:

But it gets better. Again, as a non-fan of the Yankees, I have to tip my hat to this one. He was getting pulled with two outs in the ninth, which makes total sense as it gives him a chance for the full ovation and final tip of the lid. But what made it better was not Joe Girardi going out and getting him, rather sending Jeter and Pettitte out.

A class act.

Rivera broke down and understandably so.  Have a look:

At the end of the game, Rivera stayed in the dugout and as the crowd continued to chant his name, he slowly walked out to the mound. He kicked some dirt around, then bent down and scooped it up. He then walked off the field, waving as he did before being interviewed by Yes.

I’ve only ever seen the Yankees live once. It was 2008 and the fifth-to-last game at old Yankee Stadium and we had some awesome seats. In the eighth inning, the Yanks led Chicago, 4-1. With two outs (I believe), A-Rod hit a meaningless home run to make it 5-1.

Rivera, who was warming up, sat down. Insert Edwar Ramirez. I’ve never been so irritated at a baseball game. So, about the best I can say is I saw Mo warming up.

I would have liked to have seen him pitch, alas A-Rod decided it wasn’t to be (another reason to dislike him).

Anyway…

Who knows if Rivera will pitch this weekend. (Honestly, why? His career should end where it did on Thursday night — Yankee Stadium). No matter what, he ends his career as the best closer of all time.

And despite not being a fan of the Yankees, it’s hard to not appreciate all of this. It’s history and if you love the game, you had to love this.

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HooHaa 9: John McGuinness

September 9, 2011

The original docket showing the burial of John McGuinness at Patrick’s Cemetery in Johnson City, N.Y.

I’m calling this the curious case of John McGuinness.

He who appeared to be a cigar packer in his later years, following a short professional baseball career. He, who born in Ireland sometime in 1957, came to the United States at some point, played baseball and later lived in Binghamton, New York.

John J. McGuinness

He died in 1916, pending where you look. Finding information on him, outside of his baseball statistics, has proven to be quite difficult.

McGuinness is the next draftee on the HooHaa 9, a team made up of obscure baseball players from the 1800s and the early 1900s.

I came across him when searching for players to sponsor on Baseball-Reference.com. I did a search for Irish-born players and came across him. To make it better, he had the name McGuinness. I couldn’t go wrong with someone who had “Guinness” as part of their name, could I?

Further, he was buried in St. Patrick Cemetery in Johnson City, which isn’t too far from me.

But McGuinness became more than a quick research topic for me. He’s become a bit of an obsession. There’s no telling when he was born in 1857. Heck, he might have been born in 1856. Or 1858. When did he come across the big pond to the states? It’s a tough thing to pin down as the name “John McGuinness” was a more-than-common name in that time period (as I’ve discovered with my research).

Here are some of the things I do know:

He died in Binghamton on Dec. 19, 1916. He was interred at St. Patrick’s on Dec. 23, which happened to be 10 days after his daughter, Elizabeth, was buried.

Family interment records.

The family plot also contains a Mrs. J.J. McGuinness, who was buried on Dec. 22, 1902. Also buried there is Robert E. McGuinness, who was buried on Aug. 1, 1935. He’s the lone member of the family with a headstone, though there appears to be remnants of others at the plot. According to the obituary for John J. McGuinness, Robert is his son.

Some notes have put Elizabeth as his wife, but according to an obituary, it is, indeed, his daughter. This does seem to have a bit of confusion, however, as the owner/director (Robert L. McDevitt) of the funeral home that handled the McGuinness bodies sent this as part of a letter to baseball historian Bill Haber on Jan. 21, 1980:

Our records indicated that subject individual was born (1857) in Ireland — died December 19, 1916 (9:45 p.m.) at his residence, 5 River Terrace, Binghamton, New York. The record of his baseball career was not required and not requested y us. Additionally, Mr. McGuinness was pre-deceased by his wife (Elizabeth P. McGuinness) on Dec. 10., 1916.

Further, the letter goes on to state that the funeral arrangements were made by “their” daughter, Mrs. Frank J. (Mary H.) Mangan. Mrs. Mangan died March 23, 1953, in Syracuse.

McDevitt, however, was going based on records at the funeral home. Though he states that the records are extremely well kept, there might not have been a full connection between Elizabeth and John in the records.

Haber also contacted the Binghamton Public Library and received a letter back on October 31, 1979, which gave him the obituary of McGuinness.

JOHN J. MC GUINNESS died last night at 10 o’clock at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Frank Mangan, 5 River Terrace, after a week’s illness. His daughter, Mrs. Elizabeth McGuinness, died one week ago. He is survived by his daughter, Mrs. Frank J. Mangan; one son, R. Emmitt McGuinness, and a sister, Miss Anna McGuinness of Brooklyn. Mr. McGuinness was formerly a well known athlete and played first base on the old Cricket baseball team. He was a member of the Kingston Council of the Knights of Columbus, the Elks of Kingston and of Branch 74 of the C.K. of A. The funeral will be held Friday morning at the home at 9:30 o’clock at 10 o’clock at St. Patrick’s Church. Burial will be at St. Patrick’s Cemetery.

This would somewhat go a little more on par with city guides from that time period. The 1899 Williams’ Binghamton City Guide shows John, Emma M. Mrs. (possibly his wife) and Mary all living at 134 Front St.

His name has been misspelled quite a bit, most commonly as “McGinnis.” There are misspellings on his interment record for the cemetery as well.

The Anthony Publishing Co.’s Standard City Directory of Binghamton 1893-1894.

This fact comes into an interesting play in the The Anthony Publishing Co.’s Standard City Directory of Binghamton 1893-1894. John J. McGinnis – a cigar packer — is listed at 99 Clinton. On the opposite page, a Mrs. J J McGuinness — a sales lady — is also listed at 99 Clinton.

The reality is that when dealing with records from the 1800s and early 1900s, a lot of items can be hard to figure out.

So let’s take a closer peek at John J. McGuinness. …

Born in 1857 (maybe), McGuinness, obviously, came across the ocean at some point. He eventually landed in the Binghamton, NY area. Though it’s not fully known when. I have uncovered some Binghamton city directories from the early 1880s and he’s listed there as a cigar packer. I’m quite sure these are him considering his occupation, on his death certificate, show him being a cigar packer.

Before delving into his baseball career, however, it’s interesting to figure this out — when was he born.

1900 Census

Thanks to items on ancestry.com, I came across the 1900 Federal Census for Broome County and came across John McGuinness. I am thinking, with all the other things that I found, that this is the right John McGuinness as “Emma” is listed as his wife, his daughters include Bissi (Elizabeth?) and Mary and a son Robert E.

The interesting part?

He’s listed as being born in March of 1856. AND he’s listed as a cigar packer!

The confusing part continues, however, as his name is noted as “Mcginness.” The handwriting on the census list is hard to read, so it can easily be construed as something else. It’s quite an interesting peek, though, and might be the first true piece of info that shows when Mr. McGuinness may have really been born.

Don’t think it gets easier, however.

In the 1910 census, John is now listed as an estimated birth year of 1860. But he’s in the same household with Robert and Elizabeth, who are listed as brother and sister. Also in the house are Frank and Mary Mangan and their kids. This would seem to show their family tree as it seems to be pretty much on par with the obituary.

Going back a bit more, the US Census in 1880 shows a McGuinness family in Norwich, with John (about 1859 birth year) as the son. In 1880, John is listed as 21 on the census report. That could be the same person as it’s near Binghamton and the age differential could be about right, considering it seems like John might have been born anywhere from 1856-1860.

IF this is the same one, then his father would have been James. The only major issue here is that John and his sister on this report are both listed as being born in the United States. And, his sister is Jennie. There is a blank spot, as if room for another, but nothing is seen.

Finally, looking at the 1870 census, this same household is in Norwich. There is James and Mary (the parents) and then Jane, Ann and John. With the writing in the 1880 census, Jane/Jennie/Janie could definitely be confused. The age gap here goes on the 1859 birth year sort of thing for John, however. Ann is listed as age 16.

Again, however, the kids are listed as being born in New York.

There are some dots that connect that make me believe that this is a possible match. On John’s death certificate, his mother is listed as Mary, with the maiden name of Cassidy.

Life in baseball

He played three years in the “Major Leagues,” — 1875, 1879 and 1884. It also appears he played some minor league ball in the missing years, but just one — Utica in 1879 — shows any statistics.

Mainly a first baseman throughout his career, it isn’t known if McGuinness threw or bat left- or right-handed. He’s listed as being 5-foot-10, 150 pounds.

He made his debut in the big leagues in 1876, playing one game for the New York Mutuals of the National League. He went 0-for-4 in the game. The team finished in sixth place in the league that year with a 21-35 record.

He returned to the majors in 1879, playing for the Syracuse Stars, also of the National League. The team finished 22-48 that season and McGuinness played in 12 games, finishing 15-for-51 (.294) with seven runs scored, a double, triple and four RBIs. He struck out six times

His fielding was so-so as he had a .928 fielding percentage. He had 125 chances and had 113 putouts, three assists, nine errors and was part of eight double-plays.

McGuinness played his final major league season in 1884 with the Philadelphia Keystones of the Union Association. The team went 21-46 and placed eighth in the league. McGuinness saw a lot more playing time, appearing in 53 games.

The long season appeared to have taken a toll on McGuinness as his batting average was a paltry .236 (52-for-220). He eight doubles, a triple and five walks. No strikeouts were apparently recorded, however.

He played 48 games at first base that season and had a fielding percentage of .959. In 586 chances, he had 550 putouts, 12 assists, 24 errors and took part in 19 double plays. The games played at first, putouts and assists were each  ranked fifth in the league.

His minor league playing days included stints with Binghamton Cricket of the League Alliance (1877), Utica of the International Association (1878), the Utica Pent Ups of the National Association (1879) and the Binghamton Bingoes of the New York State League (1885). He also served as manager of the 1879 Utica team.

For that Utica team, which is the only year in the minors where his statistics were kept, he hit 28-for-91 (.308) with 17 runs. Those numbers might have been what got him to Syracuse that same season.

Beyond baseball

After baseball, it appears that McGuinness settled into his life as a cigar packer in Binghamton. According to the various city guides, he seemed to move around from year to year.

Death certificate for John J. McGuinness

He was at the home of his daughter when he died, if I am reading his death certificate right. The writing is hard to read, but it appears he died of pneumonia, though there is a secondary thing mentioned. It’s something with his heart, though I can’t read the first word (it starts with P).

It’s likely that many of the connections with John McGuinness will never be confirmed. The Hall of Fame has a letter on file from John Mangan, dated January 30, 1980. In it, Mangan said that he would have been 5 when McGuinness died and that Mary Mangan would have been an aunt by marriage.

He notes that he spoke  with Frank J. Mangan, who would have been a grandson to McGuinness, and neither of them had any strong recollection of McGuinness. At this point (so more than 30 years ago), he said he believed there were several children of McGuinness’ son, Emmett. However, they did not know where they were located.

Robert E. McGuinness was buried in the family plot on August 1, 1935 according to the cemetery records. His headstone shows he was born in 1890. In the 1900 census, he’s shown as being born in October of 1887, but being 11 years old. As we’ve seen, these dates can be very hard to pin down in some cases.

Grave of Robert E. McGuinness

But, either way, Robert E. (Emmett) would have had to had children before 1935. That would put them in their 80s or 90s now, if they are still alive. There is a chance that maybe a great-grandchild of John McGuinness is still alive and maybe they would be able to fill in a few details. Who can tell as they likely would have been born after Robert had already died, as his death came at a young age.

This case is definitely curious. If anyone out there has more info, drop me a comment or e-mail me. I’d be interested to hear more. More than likely, however, a lot of these lines will never be completed, though that’s what makes research like this fun and interesting.

To see the closeups of the documents in this blog post, you can click on them. You can see everything I have by checking out the baseball research set I have on my blog’s Flickr account.

Sources used:

Files from the National Baseball Hall of Fame Library, including letters and death certificate.

Ancestry.com

Baseball-Reference.com

Baseball-Reference.com John McGuinness page

Baseball-Reference Bullpen page on John McGuinness

Baseball-Reference.com minor league page on John McGuinness

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All about me: Week 4/52
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The theme for Week 3 of the 52-week video challenge was "Show your process of making something." Alas, I didn't get the time to do what I wanted to do, so I attacked something I filmed over the summer that I kept putting off. 

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Show your process: Week 3/52
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